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SOPA
« on: January 18, 2012, 06:18:53 pm »
will this site and audiosurf online stats will be deleted when SOPA is approved?? also... what do you think about this law?? (i actually think its shit xD)
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Re: SOPA
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 07:20:04 pm »
No, but youtube would had to crack down on Audiosurf videos (along with other games) much harder or risk being taken down as a whole.
Steam community would lose its shiny screenshot pictures and depending just how serious things get from it there's the potential that the Audiosurf forum could be taken down or avatar images removed.

The problem with the law is that it's too broad with inspecific definitions and whilst it's unlikely to destroy youtube itself, it will cause such massive changes that the site will be unrecognisable in the new form and will cause similar changes to many other sites.
Exactly what gets targeted will depend on specific media companies, but the short version is that it can be abused in a similar manner to the DMCA (the legislation that is often used to take down Audiosurf videos on youtube) but with much broader definitions (if a google search links to a video, it's liable as well, etc).
A lot of the legislation is beyond policing 100%, but since this can take out entire websites considered 'rogue' (with no clear definition of 'rogue') it's clear that it at the very least needs looking at again very closely.

One of the best explanations is in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h2dF-IsH0I (it's 14 minutes long, but well worth listening through if you want to understand SOPA and PIPA).
Which is from TED (http://www.ted.com/), one of the leading organisations presenting the free flow of ideas, which this bill would potentially kill.

Another problem with the bill is that many of the case scenarios with it seem like conspiracy theory nonsense. They aren't, this is a bill with really, really bad legislation in it that could cause permanent damage to the internet on a global level if implemented.

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Re: SOPA
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 09:26:06 am »
I have thoughts SOPA won't pass. Bill S. 978 (or whatever) also didn't pass. im sure THIS will be safe.

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Re: SOPA
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 09:37:46 am »
It's worrying that it got this far though. Two of the backers dropped out recently which is a good sign at least.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 10:20:17 am »
It is somewhat of concern that the SOPA bill will be up for a vote in the House of Representatives. However, if the bill passes through the the House (two-thirds vote) it will have to pass through the U.S. Senate. So it has a ways to go before it can even reach the President of the United States. This bill could potentially turn the internet into a totalitarian place. Wikipedia made its voice heard by shutting down it's U.S. edition for 24 hours on January 18, 2012 in protest of this potentially Draconian bill.
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Re: SOPA
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 01:18:55 pm »
i loved this: 卐OPA xDDD
well i also thought that SOPA could not be approved because of too many reasons...
(im in college so i don't know what to say more than 'no investigations of homework)
also... artist could take a serious disadvantage because of youtube, google will practicly die and Facebook... well... i heard that anonymous is defending everything and so facebook.. so lets hope for Black SOPA to defeat SOPA and that internet will be alive.
also, Dish, Netflix and other TV stuff may die not literaly... :T
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Re: SOPA
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 11:59:03 am »
On January 20, 2012 it was decided that consideration of the SOPA bill will be delayed due to the lack of agreement so far. This means that the U.S. Representatives will have to go back to the drawing board and amend the bill. The bill will take longer to pass if it ever passes, but it doesn't mean it's dead yet.
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 12:37:21 pm »
Anyone who supports SOPA is an enemy of Vox Populi. The whole "piracy" issue is just a pretext to justify their attempt at establishing a government monopoly over free expression on the Internet (one of the last bastions of free speech and free expression worldwide).
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Re: SOPA
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2012, 08:52:15 pm »

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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 08:28:22 am »
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Re: SOPA
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 09:25:37 am »
Australia is kinda awesome, but it's no Yorkshire.

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 09:45:49 am »
It appears that the bill needs to be amended if there's any chance for an agreement among the U.S. legislators. This will take a lot of time.
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Re: SOPA
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2012, 11:52:42 am »
Don't worry about anything because i don't think that sopa will ever gonna approved because of too much pressures are coming to us government to stop sopa from all over the world. 

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Re: SOPA
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2012, 04:09:03 pm »
Don't worry about anything because i don't think that sopa will ever gonna approved because of too much pressures are coming to us government to stop sopa from all over the world.
say that to megaupload lmao
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Re: SOPA
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2012, 05:22:47 pm »
Don't worry about anything because i don't think that sopa will ever gonna approved because of too much pressures are coming to us government to stop sopa from all over the world.
say that to megaupload lmao

See, that's just it -- the Feds didn't need SOPA to get Kim Dotcom since he had servers in the U.S.

Any country which is a signatory to the Berne Convention and other international copyright treaties will cooperate to get the so-called "bad guys." My problem with New Zealand is how the raid was carried out against Dotcom like he was some sort of terrorist or mass-murderer.

Other than that, the BIGGEST problem is how the media companies (which are actually International and not just U.S.-based) are able to throw enough money at politicians to get them to do their bidding.

I pointed out the international nature of the media companies for the sole purpose of heading off the usual U.S. bashing that comes along with this topic. While it was true years ago that the U.S. based media were the biggest bad guys concerning copyright aggression, nowadays nearly every country has their own version of the MPAA and RIAA thugs.

But back to the topic at hand, I'm fairly certain SOPA will return in another guise with the same intentions -- to allow easier government control of the Internet.

Stay alert!