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GeoLuz

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What's With The Achievements?
« on: November 06, 2011, 01:01:46 pm »
I and others in the Audiosurf community have noticed that some achievements have been earned so many times that the numbers appear to be too inflated to be true. Some players have achieved the big kahunas over 100K times. I understand that the big kahuna can be increased more quickly depending on the character the player uses the most. It seems like the players who play Eraser or Double Vision characters tend to have achieved the big kahuna more often than players who play other characters. I have seen one player get the brutus achievement over 1000 times. I'm not sure it's possible to achieve brutus that many times. Is it possible that a bug is causing the big kahunas and other achievements to be so inflated?

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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 03:00:39 pm »
I have 'achieved' big kahuna over 1000 times, and laser show over 1000 times. From what I used to play, I'd say these were perfectly possible to achieve.

I have seen one player get the brutus achievement over 1000 times. I'm not sure it's possible to achieve brutus that many times.

How so? Beating a friend on the scoreboard 1000 times isn't that much of a feat. Unless you are a major sceptic of their playing. Bizarro I'd question more.

You have missed something else though, Sunburn isn't on the profile list of achievements.
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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2011, 07:58:16 pm »
There is something up. I just did a little test; I played Flight of the Feathered Serpent 6 times with DVE and got:

(This is per ride, not running total!)
Try #   BK   Olympian
1        51      1
2        139    2
3        139    3
4        174    4
5        216    5
6        259    6
Total  932    21

All of this in 1 hour. The song is about 10 minutes, which means I was getting a match of 17,000 or more every 2.3 seconds on the last run  :-\ 
Now I don't feel as awesome about my 135K Big Kahunas between all me accounts :(
« Last Edit: November 07, 2011, 09:40:02 am by PsYKoTx »

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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2011, 01:39:04 am »
I noticed the strangely high Olympian value...and I just played 4 songs on pusher elite and it increased by 10...

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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 06:20:43 am »
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6 Olympians in a single ride? and 259 Big kahunas? Or is that a running total?
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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2011, 08:08:03 am »
I have 'achieved' big kahuna over 1000 times, and laser show over 1000 times. From what I used to play, I'd say these were perfectly possible to achieve.

I have seen one player get the brutus achievement over 1000 times. I'm not sure it's possible to achieve brutus that many times.

How so? Beating a friend on the scoreboard 1000 times isn't that much of a feat. Unless you are a major sceptic of their playing. Bizarro I'd question more.

You have missed something else though, Sunburn isn't on the profile list of achievements.

The Sunburn achievement isn't on the profile list of achievements but it's  on the Steam profile of achievements for Audiosurf. However, we have no idea how many times we have earned the Sunburn achievements. If you have earned every achievement you will notice that you have 18 of 17 achievements.

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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, 09:09:51 am »
If you have earned every achievement you will notice that you have 18 of 17 achievements.

Hmm?
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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2011, 09:13:31 am »
If you have earned every achievement you will notice that you have 18 of 17 achievements.

Hmm?


Well, I referring to your Audiosurf page, not your Steam page.
The following screenshot shows 18 of 17 achievements:
« Last Edit: November 07, 2011, 05:50:05 pm by GeoLuz »

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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 09:38:54 am »
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6 Olympians in a single ride? and 259 Big kahunas? Or is that a running total?

Yes, that is 6 Olympians and 259 Big Kahunas in a single ride! The running total for the hour is that 932 Big Kahunas and 21 Olympians...which is still a Big Kahuna every 3.8 seconds for an hour.

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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2011, 09:55:22 am »
Well, I referring to your Audiosurf page, not your Steam page.

Seems that bit is hard-coded and not updated.

Yes, that is 6 Olympians and 259 Big Kahunas in a single ride! The running total for the hour is that 932 Big Kahunas and 21 Olympians...which is still a Big Kahuna every 3.8 seconds for an hour.

Crazy, seems to have broken more so than when I played last.
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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2011, 12:43:50 pm »
There is something up. I just did a little test; I played Flight of the Feathered Serpent 6 times with DVE and got:

(This is per ride, not running total!)
Try #   BK   Olympian
1        51      1
2        139    2
3        139    3
4        174    4
5        216    5
6        259    6
Total  932    21

All of this in 1 hour. The song is about 10 minutes, which means I was getting a match of 17,000 or more every 2.3 seconds on the last run  :-\ 
Now I don't feel as awesome about my 135K Big Kahunas between all me accounts :(
Looks like it keeps track of the total per game, and then thinks all that was achieved per ride? Anyone care to try this again, except having the 6th run be a mono run where nothing is hit at all?
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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2011, 02:06:41 pm »
Looks like it keeps track of the total per game, and then thinks all that was achieved per ride? Anyone care to try this again, except having the 6th run be a mono run where nothing is hit at all?

You might be on to something there.
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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2011, 05:34:08 pm »
Check out Tongari's Big Kahunas, 255K+. Quite astonishing. Also check out the comments regarding the Big Kahunas on Tongari's shout box.


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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2011, 09:26:52 pm »
So I did another test and the results are what S. Eagle said. It keeps track of all the achievements you earned since AS started, then acts like you got that many during that run.

(These are again PER RIDE and NOT a running total) (All played with DVE unless specified and I repeat the same song unless specified)
All songs were about 3 minutes.


Song#     BigKahunas     Olympians     Player Details
1             14             1   
2             28             2   
3             37             3   
4             0              0         OVERFILLED and quit before scoreboard
5             52             4   
6             63             5   
7             75             6   
8             75             6         Ninja Mono - 0 pts.
9             75             6         NEW SONG - Ninja Mono - 1 pt.
10            92             7         NEW SONG
11            106            8   
12            122            9   
13            136            10   
14            149            11   
15            161            12   
16            177            13   
17            177            13       NEW SONG - Ninja Mono - 0 pts.
18            177            13       Ninja Mono - 0 pts.
19            0              0        Diff. account w/ Pusher Elite on NEW SONG.
20            185            15       NEW SONG


Sorry about the layout, not good with this stuff.

But anyways, it seems to keep a running total and then adds it at the end of each song.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2011, 05:25:28 am by ViRUS »

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Re: What's With The Achievements?
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2011, 05:03:59 am »
It would seem that the game code just increments the counter each time you gain said achievement and doesn't initialise the variable with each new song.

I'd say we can now but this down as a confirmed bug.

Thanks for the data log PsYKoTx.
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