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Anyone know some good...
« on: May 25, 2011, 08:02:54 am »
...Mice with the following features:
-Option to switch between the clickety-click mousewheel and the woosh-infinite-loop-wheel (don't know the correct names)
-Buttons where my thumb is so I can go back and forward on web pages and play SWAT 4 in a decent way.
-Not using a ball for movement sensing

...Microphone with the following features:
-usb
-has to fit on my head in a non-painful way without having my ears covered with some kind of audio emmiter because then I can't hear my actual speakers anymore AND having the microphone thingy in front of my mouth so it picks up what I say. (I could up the sensitivity to solve that, but doing so makes it picking up my speakernoise as well more likely)
OR
-usb
-sits on desktop and picks up what I say but not what comes out of my speakers. (picking up keyboard noises isn't a problem I suppose)

...webcam
-Windows 7 compatible.
-Quality that makes people able to point at the screen and say: "these are his eyes"



My current gear lacks these features, so me needz new!
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Re: Anyone know some good...
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 10:00:19 am »
for the mouse just get a logitech mx518, the wheel still clicks when scroll but it has thumb buttons and sensitivity controls on the mouse, it's a pretty accurate optical mouse and there cheap.

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Re: Anyone know some good...
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 10:07:13 am »
For a mouse, look at the Roccat Kone (best mouse I've had).

Mic, I have 3.5mm cheep logitec and that's fine imo.

Webcam, you'll have to try hard to not get a compatible one :P
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Re: Anyone know some good...
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2011, 10:38:03 am »
for the mouse just get a logitech mx518, the wheel still clicks when scroll but it has thumb buttons and sensitivity controls on the mouse, it's a pretty accurate optical mouse and there cheap.

I'm using one of those and it's WONDERFUL.

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Re: Anyone know some good...
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 10:42:11 am »
Mouse: Logitech M500. Yay optical!

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Re: Anyone know some good...
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2011, 01:14:16 pm »
If money is an issue, the MX518 will do you and is probably the cheapest you should drop. You really get what you pay for with mice.
Doesn't have the wheel clicky thing, does have forwards/backwards buttons.

If you're willing to spend the money, then an MX Performance has the wheel clicky thing (thought it would be useless until I started using it, now I wonder how I managed without). The sole issue with this mouse is that the middle button is a little spongey, but it has 3 buttons by the thumb (forward, backward and 'zoom'), I switch the zoom one to emulate the middle button and actually find this preferable to a working middle mouse button (especially in games where both the wheel and the button do things).
Has a "darkfield" laser, which claims it will track on anything (including glass), which as far as I've needed it to, it has done.
It's wireless with about 3 days of heavy (12+ hours gaming/browsing) use in the battery. Uses a single re-chargable 2000 mAh AA battery, so easily replaceable if it does die (or if you want to bump it up to a 2500 mAh battery and get probably 4 days out of it).
Recharges from a USB cable. You can use the mouse whilst it's charging although you obviously have the wire-drag in that case. Or quickly switch to another battery.

I own both mice, the MX518 was a stand-in for my old mouse (MX1000, which is classed as obsolete or I'd recommend that as well) when it was recharging but now I have the MX Performance which is easily one the best mouse I've ever used with only the MX1000 being near it.

I do highly recommend Logitech as their mice seem to last a long time (over 6 years of heavy daily use on the MX1000 with only the middle button breaking in the final 18 months) and even their cheapest keyboards last well with heavy use.

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Re: Anyone know some good...
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2011, 01:30:33 pm »
Mic, I have 3.5mm cheep logitec and that's fine imo.
Does it sit on your head or on your desktop?

@MX518, My bro has this mouse, and yeah it's awesome. If I fail to find a similar one with the woooosh-wheel I'll get that one.

@the MX performacnce thingy. It sounds awesome, but it's quite expensive as well. the cable dragging isn't an issue for me though and I prefer it over wireless because I'm lazy and hate recharging things :p What do the lights do?


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Re: Anyone know some good...
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2011, 01:46:33 pm »
@the MX performacnce thingy. It sounds awesome, but it's quite expensive as well. the cable dragging isn't an issue for me though and I prefer it over wireless because I'm lazy and hate recharging things :p What do the lights do?

They show the battery level, although they're off most of the time.
If you set up one of the buttons to switch between sensitivities then it flashes the top and middle lights for one sensitivity and the lower and middle light for the other.

It is an expensive mouse, you're right. In my opinion it is worth the money (at least, it will have been if it lasts as long as my MX1000). There are plenty of models between the 518 and the Performance though, so it's probably worth checking out some of their middle-range mice.

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Re: Anyone know some good...
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2011, 02:28:55 pm »
hmm for the mic,

is there a price cap?

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Re: Anyone know some good...
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2011, 02:36:22 pm »
Mic, I have 3.5mm cheep logitec and that's fine imo.
Does it sit on your head or on your desktop?

http://www.logitech.com/en-au/webcam-communications/internet-headsets-phones/devices/268

Mouse:
http://www.roccat.org/Products/Gaming-Mice/ROCCAT-Kone/
It's a 'big' mouse as such, but a real comfort to hold and use.
Tis a cabled mouse, though it's a light cable which I prefer over wireless mice.
Has a clicky wheel, also a button just infront of the wheel should you wish to use that over the wheel. 10 buttons in total which are all customisable.
The lights down the sides are changeable (can can be turned off). You can set 5 different profiles to be auto selected with a game/application launch. The profiles are stored in the mouse it's self, so you can take it from PC to PC (or *nix) and still have the same setup ;)
So when you launch HL2, you can have the shoulder buttons set to grav gun/reload (or what ever you want) and when moving to something else, ie your browser, have them set to back and forward.
Each button can store a click, key press or even a macro and series of key presses. I set the colours of the mouse to match the game, which also means you can spot which profile the mouse is running.
It has changeable weights, should you want a light mouse or a heavy mouse, and the laser has tracked over everything I've tried it on. The mouse has some kind of sensor on the bottom that can auto calibrate the mouse to the surface and has sensitivity adjustment buttons.
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Re: Anyone know some good...
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2011, 03:08:14 pm »
About them Logitech mice...

The G500 has the button that allows you to change between the "clicky" scroll wheel and the "smooth" scroll wheel. It also has side buttons where your thumb is. It also has weights that you can use to change the weight of the mouse.

I actually have this mouse, and it works perfectly fine for me. Its shape is very similar to the old Logitech G5/MX518.

However, it is somewhat (basically twice) as expensive as the MX518 if you can't find it on sale. I also have some slight issue with the laser placement, but if you can try it out before you make a decision, you might decide if it will work for you or not.

I will also bet that if you look at a lot of the Logitech mice, they will have the two capabilities that you are looking for, especially if you don't need a gaming mouse. The M500 is considerably cheaper than the G500 and has what you are looking for.
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Re: Anyone know some good...
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2011, 03:44:29 pm »
Mouse:
http://www.roccat.org/Products/Gaming-Mice/ROCCAT-Kone/

Looks nice and I was impressed by it's list from the site, then I went looking about and apparently a lot of them get returned. :(
Specifically issues with the scroll wheel, laser and TCU sensor it seems. Unfortunate. Might just be a very vocal minority however.

Hammer's suggestion of the G500 looks like it fulfills all your criteria. Minor complaints about it's accuracy though, with solutions being "install the proper drivers" and "get a decent mouse mat". It has a weak middle button (it has another button by the back/forward you can reassign to this, which again is what I do with the Performance).
I think the weak middle button is a direct result of the 'whoosh' feature since even the Performance (which is Logitech's flagship mouse right now) has the issue. I should also note that it's possible to get used to the middle button issue and I don't have a problem with it during normal desktop use (middle-button is "open in new tab" in a browser for instance), it's only when I need to use it regularly in games that it becomes an issue.
However, I also use mice differently to most people -- I always have 3 fingers on top of the mouse (it's a throwback from learning computing on an OS that used 3 buttons), so your mileage may vary on the middle button issue.

As another note, there is also the M500, which has the same features as the G500 except for that additional side button and is half the price of the G500 (at least, on amazon.co.uk, but their prices fluctuate a lot, I got my Performance for 60 quid and it's 70 now, saw it as high as 85 a month or two before I bought it).
Might be worth checking out anyway.

Hope that's all useful. </second essay> :P

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Re: Anyone know some good...
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2011, 04:13:11 pm »
hmm weird i use the middle click a hell of a lot due to 3d apps but i never bothered to use 3 fingers for buttons.

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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2011, 04:33:56 pm »
hmm weird i use the middle click a hell of a lot due to 3d apps but i never bothered to use 3 fingers for buttons.
I think it's an overall better position. Keeps your fingers off the mouse mat (no so-called "pinky drag" issue), has a finger over all the buttons and spreads the click load across the tendons more.
As I said, I do it because that's how I learnt to use a mouse, using an OS that required using 3 mouse buttons (select/menu/adjust -- select being typical left-click, menu being a context-sensitive menu everywhere in the UI and adjust working a bit like a control-click in Windows, providing alternative functionality, using it on "OK" in dialog boxes works like "apply" on Windows for instance and using it in menus left the menu open after the click for rapidly selecting several items in the same menu).
There is less power/control with the ring finger than the middle finger though, so quick-right-clicking is a little less effective.
It probably helps that I use a mouse right-handed but play guitar left-handed so I use my right hand for both mouse and frets. Ahhh, I'm weird. :P

Pretty off-topic, whoops.

I am interested in what others say about mics. I'd like one similar to how S describes the one he wants, although noise cancellation would be nice (the cheap ones I have atm all get lovely buzzing courtesy of my rather loud PC and you can hear every key press and mouse click very loudly).

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Re: Anyone know some good...
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2011, 05:31:01 pm »
ah ya i use the middle mouse a lot since most 3d packages use ALT+RMB, MMB, LMB for orbit, pan, and zoom.

and about the left handed guitar thing, well i can play pretty much any stringed instrument well right handed, but i cant even play simple bass lines or chords left handed