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rcdraco

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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2008, 08:25:33 pm »
I am getting the same issue, every game I play I run on full settings with no trouble, above 50fps.  This game ran fine in the beta on premium settings, the only change I've had is I changed the monitor to an lcd at a lower resolution, from 1600x1200 on a dell d1025ht 19'' to 1280x1024 Envision 19''

My Specs are entirely reasonable for this game:

CPU: 2.8 ghz pentium D
RAM: 1.5gb
Video Card: MSI 8600GT 512mb

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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2008, 09:06:21 pm »
So sorry you guys are having this trouble. The patch seems to have worked for some people over on the Valve thread but not others. We are working on it.

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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2008, 09:16:28 pm »
No worries, I'm just glad you guys are doing so well, bound to be a bump in the road especially with new games coming. Good luck and keep up the good work, I really do enjoy this game!  ;D

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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2008, 05:16:52 am »
Video Card: MSI 8600GT 512mb

Ehh, that card is kind of bad. 8600GT < 7900GS

I can't even play it without it lagging all over the place.

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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2008, 05:21:06 am »
It normally ran at about 30fps but after the update it runs like the beta again.


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Geforce 8400GS 512MB
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E4500
RAM: 2GB DDR2

oh and Gravs DDR3200 would be DDR400 and PC3200.

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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2008, 06:26:57 am »
It's running perfectly fine on the highest detail setting and my graphics card isn't really that great xD

Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (2.66ghz x 2)
3gb RAM
GeForce 6150SE
nForce 430
1440x900 Resolution

No video lag at all for me..

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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2008, 07:34:09 am »
It's running perfectly fine on the highest detail setting and my graphics card isn't really that great xD

Could you take e.g. Fraps and run a benchmark? I'd like to know what your average fps are. I will be really, really annoyed if you get more than me, not because I have a better computer, but because I want to Audiosurf to run as smoothly as possible...

Update:
OK - I've done some testing and got the following results on The Whistle Song by DJ Aligator (yes, it's spelled with one "L" =) Project.

FSAA 8x or none makes as good as no difference at all - in one case turning it off even worsened the situation. 0_o

I tried to catch all the colored blocks not caring for the score because the "hit effect" slows down the performance as well.

My results are as follows:

Premium 8x FSAA:
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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
  3190,     60000,  32,  73, 53.167

Premium no FSAA:
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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
  3270,     60000,  34,  72, 54.500

Enhanced 8x FSAA:
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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
  3814,     60000,  41,  78, 63.567

Enhanced no FSAA:
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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
  3915,     60000,  42,  78, 65.250

Normal 8x FSAA:
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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
  4391,     60000,  52,  79, 73.183

Normal no FSAA:
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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
  4358,     60000,  49,  80, 72.633

Again, my setup:

Core2Duo E6600 @ 2.2 GHz
2 GB RAM CL4 @ 900 MHz
GeForce 8800 GTX 768 MB

Resolution: 1280x1024

Could someone run a similar benchmark with Fraps? I'm especially interested in the Premium 8x FSAA performance since that's how I want to play the game, considering my PC is still in like the top 5% according to e.g. the Steam Survey. 53 fps on average with a minimum of 32 fps is not what I'm expecting from a game about collecting colored blocks - I get better performance in Supreme Commander, where there are hundreds of units and massive battles with impressive explosions.

Run a 60 second benchmark from the beginning of the song (after you start moving your ship, not when the camera zooms in).

The song is available here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/92371220/benchmark_song.mp3

P.S. I tried running the game in single-core mode since some programs display very low performance while running on dual cores but I got exactly the same results. Hence single-core or even quadruple core CPUs should make no difference whatsoever.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2008, 08:39:51 am by Lim-Dul »
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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2008, 08:51:54 am »
Just bringing this back up so it doesn't get buried and forgotten.

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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2008, 09:41:30 am »
Maybe I should post the benchmark request in the main forum because more people are reading it?
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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2008, 10:11:25 am »
Ok I'll do a test of the song on both the beta version and the new steam version. Will be with you shortly...

Just Enhanced no AA though as Beta doesnt support!

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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2008, 10:29:37 am »
Tests done!:

Using your bench track I got this:

2008-02-16 18:13:38 - QuestViewer
Frames: 2934 - Time: 58986ms - Avg: 49.740 - Min: 27 - Max: 63

These results are at 1920x1200 though, so obviously gets less than you.

To compare Beta with 'Gold' version, this is what I got with 60 secs of a fast track:

Beta:

2008-02-16 18:20:15 - QuestViewer
Frames: 3533 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 58.883 - Min: 51 - Max: 63

Gold:

2008-02-16 18:23:03 - QuestViewer
Frames: 2920 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 48.666 - Min: 32 - Max: 63

Quite clearly the Gold is far worse, and you can REALLY feel it in game, it makes Ninja Mono so much harder.

On a passing note, is the Gold Version harder to score points on, I've noticed the shuriken penalty is up, but are there less points to be gained in total, or is it the lag causing me to play worse  >:(

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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2008, 10:45:42 am »
Benchmarks done here too:


Using "The Beast and Dragon Adored" by Spoon:

Beta: 54.8 FPS average, using Premium Graphics
Beta: 58.4 FPS avg using enhanced.
Beta: 58.3 FPS avg using normal.

Gold: 39.9 avg using premium, no AA
        39.1 avg using premium 8xAA
        36.1 avg using enhanced, no AA (?!)
        46.2 avg using normal, no AA
        45.7 avg using normal, 8xAA


so... it seems to have NOTHING to do with AA, and the Enhanced and Premium settings must have something in them that causes the chunkyness.

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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2008, 09:38:50 am »
Hey, all you Vista+Nvidia users out there. I found the following page:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/windows_vista_hotfixes.html

Most hotfixes were not applicable to my system but after installing the first one I got a HUGE performance boost in Audiosurf. I also installed the newest beta drivers (173.65):

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1846

Look at my results now:

Code: [Select]
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
  3834,     60000,  55,  70, 63.900

Up from:

Code: [Select]
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
  3190,     60000,  32,  73, 53.167

Maximum settings and stuff. I'm really happy with the performance now. ~64 fps is nice and smooth and most importantly I don't get the huge fps drops to ~30 fps which made the game quite choppy at times. =)

W00t!
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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2008, 12:04:53 pm »
Awesome--thanks! I know this was a big issue for you so I'm glad you found an answer and hope it helps others.

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Re: Extreme FPS issue
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2008, 12:14:00 pm »
Hey, all you Vista+Nvidia users out there. I found the following page:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/windows_vista_hotfixes.html

Most hotfixes were not applicable to my system but after installing the first one I got a HUGE performance boost in Audiosurf. I also installed the newest beta drivers (173.65):

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1846

Look at my results now:

Code: [Select]
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
  3834,     60000,  55,  70, 63.900

Up from:

Code: [Select]
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
  3190,     60000,  32,  73, 53.167

Maximum settings and stuff. I'm really happy with the performance now. ~64 fps is nice and smooth and most importantly I don't get the huge fps drops to ~30 fps which made the game quite choppy at times. =)

W00t!

Now to get something for the XP Pro SP2 32bit folks :(