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PC talk here!
« on: August 31, 2010, 02:29:31 am »
Since my current PC has been failing a lot and it's quite old already, I'm thinking on buying a new one.

This is what I'm aiming for:



EDIT:

For comparison purposes, my current PC is a:
- CPU Core 2 Duo E4500
- 2GB RAM @ 800mhz
- GPU nVidia 8800GT 512MB
- Motherboard ASUS P5KPL-VM

Opinions? Is it worth upgrading, is it not?

this is my first time buying an AMD/ATi combo, I've always used Intel/nVidia, btw...
« Last Edit: September 02, 2010, 06:10:14 am by ViRUS »


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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2010, 03:59:56 am »
Black Edition chips are not worth it. They have no clock limiter, but are you ever going to be pushing the cycles?
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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2010, 05:33:01 am »
I'd wait until the new AMD chips come out - they're not compatible with AM3 motherboards :P

You might want 6-8 gigs of RAM, too. After all, you can never have too much RAM.

I used a 1gb 5770 as the graphics card for a custom I did a coupla months ago, and it's working like a charm, although if there's no considerable difference between it and a 5750, then go ahead with the 5750.

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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2010, 05:42:50 am »
olny things i noticed was the black edition it just adds cost over a normal phenom unless you plan on getting aftermarket cooling and overclocking it.

and 4gb ram dosnt seem like much considering the other specs

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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2010, 06:01:08 am »
The black edition looks like it isn't worth the extra with the other components (you'd want 1666/1800 RAM ideally for overclocking for example) and OCing is of dubious value with a chip that fast anyway. There's not a lot that can push it to the edge.
Room for more RAM, which would make a good later addition. I'm finding 4GB fills up pretty quickly on Windows 7, which is terrible at memory management anyway (switch off the pagefile and it complains it's running out of RAM before it hits 50% used)
Nice graphics card, I suspect hitting the price/performance spot (I've not checked).

So yeah, looks like a solid machine. Could maybe save a little money on the CPU though. Perhaps get another 2GB stick with the spare. ;)

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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2010, 06:38:20 am »
Personally, I like the 5770 more than the 5750, but if the price differential is too great, go with the 5750.

Looks solid though.
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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2010, 08:19:14 am »
Black Edition chips are not worth it. They have no clock limiter, but are you ever going to be pushing the cycles?

It's that or the 945, which seems too much of a downgrade. The 965 "non-Black Edition" is not available here...

About RAM, I never really open many applications at once, but yeah, I may try and add another 2GB if I can find the money...

GPU: the 5750 is $190 (dollars) and the 5770 is $235. What do you guys think?


Oh and overclocking is out of the question, risking breaking things to gain a bit more speed is insane when things are as expensive as they are in this country xD


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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2010, 10:57:27 am »
Bleh, I'm putting a pc together too.

Only need to find new speakers because my old ones fail to produce the high pitched intro sound of Knights of CYdonia.

But I've let other people check my pc ;)
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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2010, 11:09:48 am »
Only need to find new speakers because my old ones fail to produce the high pitched intro sound of Knights of CYdonia.

I did that to my current speaker set a few years back playing music too loud.

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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2010, 12:30:29 pm »
I'd ask about someone knowing good speakers that aren't that very expensive but still quite proper, but I've been hijacking enough threads these days :p

@ViRUS: What kind of pc is that, I'm not really into those [insert random letters and random numbers and call that a GPU/CPU or something that looks like that here] stuff. Is it the best of the best?
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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2010, 12:56:47 pm »
I'd ask about someone knowing good speakers that aren't that very expensive but still quite proper, but I've been hijacking enough threads these days :p

@ViRUS: What kind of pc is that, I'm not really into those [insert random letters and random numbers and call that a GPU/CPU or something that looks like that here] stuff. Is it the best of the best?

im assuming he ordered the parts and built it like anyone should

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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2010, 07:20:57 pm »
I thought about getting Win 7 pro 64 bit and another 4 GB ram to upgrade my current setup:

Intel E7200 OC'd to 3.5 ghz
ASUS P5N-E
2 GB gskill ram at 750 (underclocked from 833 lol... 1:1 with the CPU that way)
nVidia GTX 8800

Am I in the stone age? Is that a reasonable/necessary upgrade? Or am I better off waiting a couple years and doing a new build with bettereverything?
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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2010, 07:47:42 pm »
I thought about getting Win 7 pro 64 bit and another 4 GB ram to upgrade my current setup:

Intel E7200 OC'd to 3.5 ghz
ASUS P5N-E
2 GB gskill ram at 750 (underclocked from 833 lol... 1:1 with the CPU that way)
nVidia GTX 8800

Am I in the stone age? Is that a reasonable/necessary upgrade? Or am I better off waiting a couple years and doing a new build with bettereverything?

Depends how happy you are with the setup and why you'd be upgrading.
For example I'm still sat on a 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo with a Geforce 8600M GT laptop, although I do have 4GB of RAM in it, but the only real reason I have to upgrade is to speed Windows 7 up (I dunno WTF they've released in the updates over the last 3-4 months, but the start-up and login speed have shot to Win98-on-a-486 levels, even on a clean install with nothing but updates). I've not come across any game recently that I feel is worth the money and wouldn't run on this setup.

So, yeah, if the machine is working for you, then stick with it. More RAM can never hurt though... Especially if you use Chrome.

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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2010, 11:09:46 pm »
More RAM can never hurt though... Especially if you use Chrome.

Chrome runs like a dream for me with 2 GB RAM and Photoshop CS5 running behind it.

Of course, it helps that I never have more than three tabs open at a time and don't have that many extensions.

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Re: A "rate my new PC" thread
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2010, 03:32:30 am »
Depends how happy you are with the setup and why you'd be upgrading.
For example I'm still sat on a 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo with a Geforce 8600M GT laptop, although I do have 4GB of RAM in it, but the only real reason I have to upgrade is to speed Windows 7 up (I dunno WTF they've released in the updates over the last 3-4 months, but the start-up and login speed have shot to Win98-on-a-486 levels, even on a clean install with nothing but updates). I've not come across any game recently that I feel is worth the money and wouldn't run on this setup.

So, yeah, if the machine is working for you, then stick with it. More RAM can never hurt though... Especially if you use Chrome.

Don't know what you've done, but my Win7x64 still boots amazingly fast for me. Beats a fresh XP from POST to login, and from login to desktop. I also have loads installed.

@dschallert

The usual upgrate ram to speed a machine up, isn't a certain fix all. If you're not using the 2GB then adding more won't do anything noticeable. If you get process explorer, and open the sys info window (ctrl-i), you'll see a graph of past RAM usage, which can help identify if you're using lots or not. If the pagefile is being used loads, then that can show the system would benifit from more RAM. Though it depends on what you are doing.

Running XP right? Win7 is generally more responsive than XP, at least this is what I've found, having upgraded 3 XP machines to win7 without hardware changes.
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