Play Limit Per Song

[UnLeaded]

It shows no skillset when it takes a player 10000 plays on a song to get to number 1. 

Everyone should have a play limit per song (title) of say 10-20 times.  After this they're able to play the song, but the score won't be recorded on the scoreboard.  The message would be something like "You've exceeded allowable 20 plays for this song, your score will not be posted to the scoreboard"

Anyone with me on this?

[ViRUS]

I completely disagree with this. No one should be punished for practising...

[UnLeaded]

I completely disagree with this. No one should be punished for practising...

Well if their scores are posted, then aren't they really "playing"?

[Passerby]

I completely disagree with this. No one should be punished for practising...

Well if their scores are posted, then aren't they really "playing"?

ya but there the same thing unless your targeting a certain thorn.

and your idea would kinda screw people up since there are song that i played over 20 times in the last 2 years and me getting the thorns wasnt luck and replay it's that i got better over time.

[UnLeaded]

I completely disagree with this. No one should be punished for practising...

Well if their scores are posted, then aren't they really "playing"?

ya but there the same thing unless your targeting a certain thorn.

and your idea would kinda screw people up since there are song that i played over 20 times in the last 2 years and me getting the thorns wasnt luck and replay it's that i got better over time.

Ok, make it 20x then, I mean, isn't this "enough"??  Even in the Tournament program you track "Number of times Played" to access an overall skillset...

My point is I could go back in these Tournament songs 5 years from now, after playing the song 100 times, and beat an old score everyone has forgotten about, but I just think this is just another weak element...  I notice players obsessively playing one particular Dragonforce song, wouldn't you like to move on to another of the 10 million songs available in the universe??? I mean seriously... lmao

[Passerby]

no my point is that you just seem like your needlessly limiting the player

[Ko-Tao]

A better solution to people brute-forcing* thrones would be a tag that locks the track locations and presences of all of the currently randomized or placed blocks. While this would introduce the issue of tracks being "solvable" over a long time period, it would be perfect for radio or tournament songs where the competition is only meant to last a week.

Another beneficial overall change would be each track having random powerup placement, but static powerup presence . So an .ash with 1x red and 2x green storms would always have exactly those colors and amounts of storms, just in different locations each run ala white blocks.


*Playing the same track 100 of times in a row, looking to overcome the current throne with lucky powerup / white placements instead of skill.

[Passerby]

A better solution to people brute-forcing* thrones would be a tag that locks the track locations and presences of all of the currently randomized or placed blocks. While this would introduce the issue of tracks being "solvable" over a long time period, it would be perfect for radio or tournament songs where the competition is only meant to last a week.

Another beneficial overall change would be each track having random powerup placement, but static powerup presence . So an .ash with 1x red and 2x green storms would always have exactly those colors and amounts of storms, just in different locations each run ala white blocks.


*Playing the same track 100 of times in a row, looking to overcome the current throne with lucky powerup / white placements instead of skill.

ya also limiting play also screws up people up when not brute forcing like there are songs where a few months ago i couldn't even get near the top and today i could easily grab first in 1 or 2 tries since i improved overall since the last play.

[Jagori]

My point is I could go back in these Tournament songs 5 years from now, after playing the song 100 times, and beat an old score everyone has forgotten about, but I just think this is just another weak element...  I notice players obsessively playing one particular Dragonforce song, wouldn't you like to move on to another of the 10 million songs available in the universe??? I mean seriously... lmao

I don't agree here.  If a better player than me has a throne, I can play it as many times as I want and I won't take the throne from them (unless we're talking that I play it so many times I actually get better at the game).  If I can take the throne a while later, it's because I've become a better player, so why should I not be allowed to put up a better score?  And what if the other player is still able to score higher than me, but can't reclaim it because they used up their tries already? 

Also, I like the idea of a tag that locks or eliminates powerups and white blocks.

[Mincus]

I don't agree with the concept at all, there's just no need for it.

If you don't want to spend the time playing a song to get a high score, then don't. But don't complain just because someone else is willing to put that time in.

[UnLeaded]

Well maybe have number of plays disclosed somewhere, because the new kids on the block see these thrones and think the guy at the top is some badass, when really he's just played the song incessantly because he's addicted to seeing his name on the top worse than a crackwhore...  I just think it would show the new people in the game the true reality, that the top guy played the song over 100x, and not that he/she's got some fabulous skill...

And just "maybe" people will also be forced to play other songs than "Through the Fire and Flames"...

And you can always play the song in practice mode ahead of time, I'm talking about posted scores...

[blue_h3x]

Why does the number of plays count?

This is like saying you can only drive in 20 F1 races, or play 20 football matches. It's utterly ludicrous.

How about this, you can only play on each map in TF2/L4D/DM/BF/etc 20 times in case you learn the terrain?

Well maybe have number of plays disclosed somewhere

Each player has a profile which lists their most played songs

And just "maybe" people will also be forced to play other songs than "Through the Fire and Flames"...

So? Why does this bother you? I don't like the song, and nor have I played it. Other's like it, so what?

And you can always play the song in practice mode ahead of time, I'm talking about posted scores...

So the other day when I managed to get several m24 with clean match while keeping the chain and got a good score... I would have had to either used one of my limited plays or lost the score to 'practice' mode? Just because I played the song a few times in a row this makes me bad?

[chimaeraUndying]

I think what you're missing, UnLeaded, it that in all likelihood the person at the top of the board possesses real skill at playing the game, and not some sort of crazy obsession - Therefore, if they are dethroned by somebody who simply gets lucky, it is likely that the former owner will be quite able to reclaim their throne.

[Mincus]

I think what is key and is being missed here is that this would severely detract from the re-play value of the game in terms of competition. I know a lot of the top players back and forth thrones, trying for that extra bit. It happens to a lesser degree with lower level players as well.
Adding a play limit would completely destroy this element of the game.

[SurfinOnBeatzzz]

I sign what Mincus wrote. Most songs i won't play more than 3 times in a row, supposably even less, but in the tournament now or the songs of AS radio i'm giving songs a lot more tries.
1. Because time to take the top spot is limited
2. Because you will see possibilities for higher scoring in upcoming runs which you didn't in your first
3. Because the competition is steadily moving (and that's because other players find out about those scoring possibilities too)
So, a play limit per song would come back to bite you on these matters.