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Re: "Premium" Mode
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2010, 08:36:00 am »
2000 series ati card

4000 series or above. ATI doesn't even have a 2000 series, as far as I'm aware.

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Re: "Premium" Mode
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2010, 08:46:58 am »
2000 series ati card

4000 series or above. ATI doesn't even have a 2000 series, as far as I'm aware.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_2000
Does. ;)
But as I said, I'm not sure where on the "how powerful is it" scale it sits, so maybe a 4000 is needed.
As passerby stated, the higher end nvidia 9000 series can cope well enough, I was just being overly cautious with the 200 since Quest3D is unpredictable on what it will run well on. I know you can get Premium running on an 8600 for example, but the framerate is too low to play anything but Casual.

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Re: "Premium" Mode
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2010, 08:56:10 am »
I had premium running on my laptop - but I had to make the screen fairly small lol. (mobility ATI x1400 gogogo).
Frame rate wasn't terribly ideal of course, but it was playable - barely.

My new computer runs Premium without a hitch, but I play on Enhanced because I find the glow somewhat annoying lol.
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Re: "Premium" Mode
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2010, 09:42:36 am »
I know you can get Premium running on an 8600 for example, but the framerate is too low to play anything but Casual.

Actually, I can run AS on Premium at 1280x1024 using my 8800GT with no problems at all...


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Re: "Premium" Mode
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2010, 09:51:08 am »
I know you can get Premium running on an 8600 for example, but the framerate is too low to play anything but Casual.

Actually, I can run AS on Premium at 1280x1024 using my 8800GT with no problems at all...

Quest3D has ninja inconsistency. ;)
1280x1024 is a pretty low resolution though. The 8600 core is quite a lot slower and I'm thinking of 1280x800 on it which gives ~30fps (or did last time I tried it).

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Re: "Premium" Mode
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2010, 12:53:16 pm »
I get decent framerates on Premium at...1024x768? On my GeForce 9400GT.

Things to note are 2 GB RAM and AMD Athlon64 processor. Oh, and I need to replace the cooling on my card.

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Re: "Premium" Mode
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2010, 05:13:57 pm »
I get an unstable 60ish fps on premium mode, enough to play the game but nowhere near acceptable for serious runs, especially at high traffic. I also have a number of expensive textures associated with premium mode though, which probably cause a moderate framerate hit. Various game events randomly cause hitches and jerkiness on premium mode as well.

Most of my play is on normal mode at 1024x768 100hz with the majority of the visual effects disabled via texture and ship edits, and i enjoy well over 100fps without any hitching or other problems. The only graphical enhancement i run is 8xQ AA, which functions flawlessly and doesnt appear to cost any fps.

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Re: "Premium" Mode
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2010, 06:44:17 pm »
Well, this all left me intrigued, so I fired up FRAPS and made some benchmarks.

I discovered this: On my laptop the FPS in Enhanced is limited by the CPU, on Premium it's limited by the GPU and I lose about 30 FPS in 1280x800.
Just for reference, my laptop has a 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo (T7500), a Geforce 8600M GT and 4GB of RAM.

I used a 59 second song, played in Double Vision Casual which resulted in 224 traffic (which is practically all downhill on Casual).
Benchmarks were started at the beginning of the fly-in and ended as the screen darkens as you enter the squid I mean, giant swirling space vagina.
1280x800:
 - Enhanced averaged 83.669 FPS
 - Premium averaged 50.663 FPS

1680x1050:
 - Enhanced averaged 86.340 FPS
 - Premium averaged 44.095 FPS and 43.690 FPS (I accidentally made two runs when I forgot to change one of the settings).

Anti-aliasing was off for all benchmarks, as was VSync. All tests were taken in fullscreen on Win7 x64 and Audiosurf was restarted in between each run with the settings changed before starting the game using the ini files.

What does it tell us? Nothing we didn't already know I don't think, Premium has a much heavier graphics cost than Enhanced and Audiosurf is heavily limited by CPU speed on slower machines. That's core speed, dual or quad cores will make little difference to Audiosurf's performance.
Also, we're not really hitting fill-rate issues, otherwise the 1680x1050 performance would be MUCH lower than the 1280x800, which indicates to me it's actual shader execution time that's causing the speed issues.
I did get better performance than I expected from Premium, but it's very jerky and juddery every time you make a large match, meaning it would be difficult to play on faster tracks.

I've attached the full benchmark data FRAPS generated if anyone wants a look. It's not that interesting, the most useful values are the averages I quoted above.

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Re: "Premium" Mode
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2010, 09:03:19 am »
OK, seems like "premium" mode runs at at <60 fps, so wonder it sucks, it runs below the minimum for generic software (60 fps). Well I don't plan on testing out a $800 video card on the chance it might improve the "premium" mode on Audiosurf, so it looks like I'm sticking with "enhanced" mode.
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Re: "Premium" Mode
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2010, 04:41:17 pm »
I'm getting solid 60 FPS on premium mode, full screen (resolution is 1680x1050). In premium mode, only 1 logical core is active, and only 50% of it is used.

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