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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2010, 04:43:06 pm »
Hey

It have been said that you can visit Mono only board if you click the symbol.

but: if the number 1 of scoreboard is a puzzler, you are not throne holder even if you are the best mono player. So all this viewing of "mono only" is senseless in my opinion

That's why i think it should be changed to separate scoreboards, so mono players like me (i can't puzzle :)) can have a chance of being best player of a song

What do you think of this?

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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2010, 04:45:04 pm »
That's why i think it should be changed to separate scoreboards, so mono players like me (i can't puzzle :)) can have a chance of being best player of a song

Ever tried playing puzzle?
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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2010, 04:50:03 pm »
That's why i think it should be changed to separate scoreboards, so mono players like me (i can't puzzle :)) can have a chance of being best player of a song

you should give a puzzler a try it isnt that hard but it wont come to you immediately just olny play a puzzle character for a week even if you suck and you will get used to it and easily beat your old mono scores.

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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2010, 04:50:49 pm »
That's why i think it should be changed to separate scoreboards, so mono players like me (i can't puzzle :)) can have a chance of being best player of a song

Ever tried playing puzzle?

Hi

yes i have tryed it once but i didn't understand it...  :-[

there are too much colours and when i try to collect one colour i can never collect many pillows with the same colour and then it goes very confusing because my container is full with 5 differenct colours.... it was terrible. i would like to play it if i know how  :)

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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2010, 04:52:53 pm »
That's why i think it should be changed to separate scoreboards, so mono players like me (i can't puzzle :)) can have a chance of being best player of a song

you should give a puzzler a try it isnt that hard but it wont come to you immediately just olny play a puzzle character for a week even if you suck and you will get used to it and easily beat your old mono scores.

okay, which puzzler is the best?

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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2010, 04:54:23 pm »
it depends on how fast the song is

put eraser is prolly the most easy to learn.

check out some of the videos in the songs section of the fourms for a few tips.

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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2010, 04:59:04 pm »
You can try eraser in pro, collect mostly two colours and any one you don't want, hold the left mouse button as you hit a colour to erase all of that colour from the grid. Very easy to pick and eraser is quite powerful when played well, so you have a chance at the thrones as well
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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2010, 05:03:17 pm »
it depends on how fast the song is

put eraser is prolly the most easy to learn.

check out some of the videos in the songs section of the fourms for a few tips.
my songs are often 200-300 in traffic
sometimes but not often over 300

okay i will watch the videos tomorrow because i have to sleep now. can you reccommend me a specific video?? thanks  :)

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You can try eraser in pro, collect mostly two colours and any one you don't want, hold the left mouse button as you hit a colour to erase all of that colour from the grid. Very easy to pick and eraser is quite powerful when played well, so you have a chance at the thrones as well
okay thanks for the tip :)

it sound like you have to think very fast.... so i should play only slow songs when i play this first time???

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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2010, 06:21:36 pm »
it depends on how fast the song is

put eraser is prolly the most easy to learn.

check out some of the videos in the songs section of the fourms for a few tips.
my songs are often 200-300 in traffic
sometimes but not often over 300

okay i will watch the videos tomorrow because i have to sleep now. can you reccommend me a specific video?? thanks  :)

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You can try eraser in pro, collect mostly two colours and any one you don't want, hold the left mouse button as you hit a colour to erase all of that colour from the grid. Very easy to pick and eraser is quite powerful when played well, so you have a chance at the thrones as well
okay thanks for the tip :)

it sound like you have to think very fast.... so i should play only slow songs when i play this first time???

Depends on what level you're playing at.

In Elite, you may want to pick up Eraser or Pusher. Pusher seems to be the most popular puzzle character overall in the Elite tier (might have changed a bit after the patch but still...) and is relatively easy to pick up. Eraser is also relatively easy to pick up, and a little more forgiving than Pusher, since you can erase blocks in case you mess up. However, this does not mean that they are both simple characters - in fact, both Eraser and Pusher players at high levels need to worry about a whole slew of other things. But for now, don't worry about that.

I would recommend Pointman, but it seems that most of your traffic is in the 200-300 traffic range. Pointman is less effective at that traffic range, since picking up blocks and replanting them at that traffic requires more raw twitch skill. DV is a situational recommendation - if you can multitask well, DV may be for you. It isn't quite as reliant on the chain bonus as other characters, and its strategy is fairly straightforward (grab 1-2 colors in big bundles and repeat) - even if it is somewhat difficult for newcomers to pull off consistently.

I don't recommend doing your slowest songs to start out with - if anything, start with perhaps slower songs (i.e, in the low 200 range), but not something that is outside your typical song traffic amount. This means you get used to the traffic early, and you can play with the strategies that you pick up, as low traffic songs (below 150 for example) play much differently for everyone.

For videos, it depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for eraser only, I recommend Lu-Tze's (Kinokarte on Youtube) videos - he plays a pretty nasty eraser. In general, I recommend Embolysm's  (BeauJamesTaylor on Youtube) videos - he plays pointman/pusher/eraser to a very high skill level in general, and his videos are often amusing to watch. For DV, I recommend DL or dschallert, as both play pretty good DV characters as well as others.

You can find links to all of them in my signature (I'm currently subscribed to all of them for reference, and you can navigate from there). There are a number of good players that I didn't list, but those names come to mind first.
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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2010, 11:19:14 pm »
Heh, referring to the board as a container and the blocks as pillows made me grin. ;)

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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2010, 02:04:48 am »
Heh, referring to the board as a container and the blocks as pillows made me grin. ;)

A container of pillows... would be pretty soft to lie on
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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2010, 05:50:01 am »
Thanks Hammer  :D

Should i play with Ironmode or not  ??? or is there no difference?

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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2010, 08:01:18 am »
Iron mode gives higher traffic and a lower match timer. Although the score potential is higher, as with more traffic, it can be harder to keep the chain going. I would suggest playing without at first and then working up to it. Though I'm sure someone will say start with it on
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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2010, 08:55:56 am »
Thanks Hammer  :D

Should i play with Ironmode or not  ??? or is there no difference?

As said before, Ironmode gives (slightly) higher traffic. I'm not sure about the lower match timer, but I haven't really played anything in non-ironmode that isn't a year old, so yeah. Also, overfilling is obviously more painful in ironmode, because it forces a restart (although you may want to restart a run if you overfill anyways if you get better, because a blackout + loss of points is pretty devastating). Also, I believe that the track does jerk more in Ironmode (with more corkscrew possibilities, ugh).

There used to be a slight difference other than that in the Elite tier - Pointman Elite used to have shoulders in Ironmode, but no longer (to even out things across characters). Play with it off first, and then switch it on later - that's probably the best way to go.
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Re: Mono balance
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2010, 05:53:29 pm »
I used to be a crazed mono, and I found that there's NO SHAME in playing a casual character. I got drawn into puzzle by playing pointman casual, and collecting all the yellow blocks, but just the yellow blocks (to get me started). I found that if I used this method, I could go a LONG time without an overfill, if not running the entire song this way. I found that I couldn't do this in Pro because of the extra colour, so I tried Eraser and loved it! I have a much different method to many other people though. I collect almost all of the blocks but in an erray so that they dissapear, saving (erasing) one colour block. I started off holding blues, then yellows. You learn to quickly interchange the colours. Start off, if you want, by playing pointman casual or eraser pro. In pointman, focus only on one colour and in eraser rely heavily on your erasing ability. Once you do that for long enough, focus on induvidual colours then move up to elite. Now you're ready to play with the champions!


Or fail at elite and stick with pro... sigh...
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