Whoa, something fishy is going on here.

[scalindor]

Lollaff : how can i explain you?

Ladies and Gentlemen, I want to draw your attention to the casual scoreboard for one of this week's radio songs. (Please see the attached picture.)

Scalindor's mono score on "Shadow Dancer" stands a whopping 80k above the rest. The other scores are clustered into a tight grouping with a range of 14k (about 3.5% difference between the highest and lowest of the non-Scalindor mono scores.) Scalindor's deviates by 22% from the average.

Now consider that Casual leaderboards are typically dominated by pointman scores, especially for songs under 300 traffic. "Shadow Dancer" boasts a mere 211 with ironmode enabled. As a matter of fact, Scalindor himself has been a notable pointman casual player... why the sudden switch to mono? And how does his score differ by such a great margin from the rest? Shouldn't pointman scores still come out ahead?

I think there is something fishy going on here. I don't mean to suggest that this score discrepancy is the result of outright cheating, but perhaps it is due to other factors, such as a game bug had by the player in question.

To rectify this issue I would like to see either:
a) A video from Scalindor illustrating how he obtained the score
b) Scores that "fill in" the gap and create a more normal distribution
c) Alternative explanations of this anomalous score.

do you want more explanation about that? this is a DRAMA that dschallert made about it.... well if you want to see more DRAMATIC TOPIC HERE, I can post an topic about the HIGH SCORE that Lethargy got 3 or 4 times in the radio song... i Don't know if you saw that he got 700k in a single song that everybody olny got 200k-300k in Pro character....

didn't you think that there was something fishy going on here??? dschallert?

and i made an topic HERE in audiosurf asking why he got these score before??? I say anything about that? NO!!! but now for only a **** bug, dschallert made a scandal...

Laserrobotics, yeah i hear you and I'm calm down... I'm waiting for dschallert to resolve this problem, I don't want his apologize, only want to know why didn,'t tell me about that, he COULD send me an message to my mail or send me an PM!!!....

[lavacano201014]

OK, if this gets a lock because of me, whatever. I have to say it, or I can't live with myself. This thread deserves a lock anyway, imho

scalindor: So. You decide to necro a 6-month topic to:

• insult our intelligence
• shout at us
• assume we don't know anything about cheaters/exploiters
• cause drama when the thread was pretty much dead

This is very unacceptable. What are you, 10? We thought this topic dead, we left it alone, hell, I even forgot about it. Then you show up and scream at us. So, here's my reply in a nutshell.

Let the thread die, and do not bring it up again.

(As I've said, if this post causes a threadlock, then fine, it deserves a lock anyway, if you ask me)

[Pyritie]

LOL.

That is all.

[scalindor]

lavacano201014, I have 1 thing to tell you, this isn't your business...

scalindor: So. You decide to necro a 6-month topic to:

1.
• insult our intelligence
2.
• shout at us
3.
• assume we don't know anything about cheaters/exploiters
4.
• cause drama when the thread was pretty much dead

1.- In what moment? I only tell you about the DIFFERENCE about Cheaters/Exploiters, if you want to describe me for this problem, tell me Exploiter, no more....
2.- yeah, this is my fault, shout... but when i read this topic, i didn't know how to feel about it (angry-disappointed-or anything)
3.- isn't true? well, i think that for now you can see the difference... i tell you again, betwen DJRaziel and me, who is the cheater and the exploiter?... add... i said it for everyone that posted here.... no everybody in the forum..
4.- I only tried to defend me with arguments. is more dramatic when dschallert did that... only for a song...

I RESPECT TO EVERYBODY in this forum, and me? nobody (well someone) respect me?


about 400 reader of this topic, now i think that they think that I'm a cheater... all thanks to dschallert...

Irony
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[lavacano201014]

lavacano201014, I have 1 thing to tell you, this isn't your business...

Laserrobotics, Devil_Spawn, lavacano201014, dschallert, Ko-Tao, Lu Tze ... ESPECIALY : dschallert AND Devil_Spawn

That made it my business.

My post

1.- In what moment? I only tell you about the DIFFERENCE about Cheaters/Exploiters, if you want to describe me for this problem, tell me Exploiter, no more....

By simply assuming we didn't know.

2.- yeah, this is my fault, shout... but when i read this topic, i didn't know how to feel about it (angry-disappointed-or anything)

Whatever is said before, or after, you're a rare sight - someone that takes at least SOME responsibility for their screwups. There IS hope for America after all then.

3.- isn't true? well, i think that for now you can see the difference... i tell you again, betwen DJRaziel and me, who is the cheater and the exploiter?... add... i said it for everyone that posted here.... no everybody in the forum..

This may be because of bad English (no offense if it's not your primary language, just saying), but it kinda sorta looks like you admitted to exploiting or cheating or something...possibly rephrase if I misunderstood?

4.- I only tried to defend me with arguments. is more dramatic when dschallert did that... only for a song...

Putting all that emphasis, bringing in everyone who posted, with an italicized especially caused a ton of drama there.

I RESPECT TO EVERYBODY in this forum, and me? nobody (well someone) respect me?

I'm not seeing it...

about 400 reader of this topic, now i think that they think that I'm a cheater... all thanks to dschallert...

Irony

Previous points.

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Just pointing out a post leak. I'm picky about those.

lavacano201014 used Huge Post! It's Super Effective!

[Lu Tze]

Yay, drama!

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No, seriously: Me (as well as most people here) did NOT accuse you of cheating. Well, maybe you should have written about this bug in the song comment section or something but whatever... and it probably would have been better if you hadn't submitted your score at all.

Anyway, there recently was another thread (by dschallert) about decybel's seemingly impossible DVE scores. Turns out the scores were legit, and decybel just had a really good technique, and thanks to a video we know about it now. Your score wasn't that far off really, so you might have had found a new technique as well.

[ViRUS]

What do you think about pancakes?

I LIKE THEM!!

[scalindor]

lavacano201014, Did you feel offended ONLY for wrote the difference between Cheater and Exploiter? is ONLY your problem. but DON'T SAY that i don't respect all people here...
because of this, If i respect you (all), I want that you respect me too

you wrote:

insult our intelligence

If you don't know about something, this mean that you aren't an intelligent??

This may be because of bad English (no offense if it's not your primary language, just saying), but it kinda sorta looks like you admitted to exploiting or cheating or something...possibly rephrase if I misunderstood?

I said it before and i repat:

"sorry for my regular english and my HARD WORDS, but I'm very angry only for made a "scandal" (refers to dschallert)...

Putting all that emphasis, bringing in everyone who posted, with an italicized especially caused a ton of drama there.

I repeat: I only tried to defend me
"Silence means assent"
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Lu Tze, do you refer this topic?
http://www.audio-surf.com/forum/index.php/topic,4988.15.html
if that is the case, exist a huge difference, there, he suspect about that, but here he is "accusing" me of cheater... what was his real reason? i don't know...
and thanks for your reply... but was late -_-
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Virus, ? pankcakes? no way, I have diner now

bye

[dschallert]

wow! i never think about that dschallert made scandal about that... now i know... if I beat you you consider me and a fucking cheater 

I didn't know about this problem until a friend told me about that, I have beeen very busy to play audiosurf again... now i wonder what do you want to prove?... do you want an explanation? well here we go...

a FUCKING BUG!

Happy?

I don't have problems to return to audiosurf an make an a fucking video to you, but make the bug?

bug: i don't know what kind of bug was that, since I did "ctrl+alt+del", the game was very awful to play, the song with low intensity was very fast, in contrast the songs with high intensity was vey low an very short for example: if have a duration of 3:50 , the program short it in 3:14, it's an example... well i think that the problem was playing audiosurf in a public internet, i don't know the origin of the problem.

"runtime c++" or something like that was the title... ALL for tried to play in the "recently songs", somebody get it until now?

Thank you for clearing this up, Scalindor. The only reason I raised my concern was because I have competed with you for pointman casual scores for a while now, and I have respect for your ability. Naturally, I was surprised to see you get an unreasonable high score (and surprised to see you had played mono). I would have called anyone out on something strange like that. I see now that what happened was one of several things I suspected (a bug).

To everyone: I'm sorry for creating spectacle out of an issue that could have been handled privately. At the very least, this thread seems to have provided some entertainment.

I hope to see you return to playing Audiosurf again soon, Scalindor.

[lavacano201014]

lavacano201014, Did you feel offended ONLY for wrote the difference between Cheater and Exploiter? is ONLY your problem. but DON'T SAY that i don't respect all people here...
because of this, If i respect you (all), I want that you respect me too

you wrote:

insult our intelligence

If you don't know about something, this mean that you aren't an intelligent??

Just not knowing and not being intelligent are two different things. I picked up this saying somewhere, but I forget where: "Ignorance can be cured. Stupidity is forever."

However, you automatically assume "Oh hey, he said <whatever the hell it was I said>, he must not know anything about this." And that could have been a misunderstanding from this:

This may be because of bad English (no offense if it's not your primary language, just saying), but it kinda sorta looks like you admitted to exploiting or cheating or something...possibly rephrase if I misunderstood?

I said it before and i repat:

"sorry for my regular english and my HARD WORDS, but I'm very angry only for made a "scandal" (refers to dschallert)...

See, I figured it wasn't your primary language, so I didn't flame you or anything on it.

Putting all that emphasis, bringing in everyone who posted, with an italicized especially caused a ton of drama there.

I repeat: I only tried to defend me
"Silence means assent"

That makes sense, but using emphasis in the way you did is rather dramatic in text.

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Lu Tze, do you refer this topic?
http://www.audio-surf.com/forum/index.php/topic,4988.15.html
if that is the case, exist a huge difference, there, he suspect about that, but here he is "accusing" me of cheater... what was his real reason? i don't know...
and thanks for your reply... but was late -_-
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Virus, ? pankcakes? no way, I have diner now

bye

This part is addressed to others, and I'm too lazy to remove the quote from my post.

My section of the post in general.

You know, this whole argument is fucking retarded. It is now officially dropped. You try to bring it up again, I will simply quote this part of my post. If you try to take it to PM, I will block your PMs. This will be my last input in the argument. Attempting to persist in the argument will only result in my victory, so don't try.

The End.

[scalindor]

lavacano201014, well i said everything that i wanted to say, if you don't understand anything, IS YOUR PROBLEM!!! AND other thing... my problem isn't with you, is with dschallert...

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Problem solved with dschallert....

Please Laserrobotics or another mod/admin, could you close this topic? i send you a message...

C ya!...

[ViRUS]

Why don't we talk about different ways of cooking pancakes instead of closing this thread?

yes, I'm acting like a 10-year-old kid, but I don't care =D

[Ko-Tao]

Better idea, this thread is now about who is the #1 casual mono player.

And if anyone managed to doubt it was me... let me lay that doubt to rest:



Thanks for comin out everyone, /thread.

[Pyritie]

What do you think about pancakes?

I LIKE THEM!!

I looooove pancakes 

[lavacano201014]

lavacano201014, well i said everything that i wanted to say, if you don't understand anything, IS YOUR PROBLEM!!! AND other thing... my problem isn't with you, is with dschallert...

You know, this whole argument is fucking retarded. It is now officially dropped. You try to bring it up again, I will simply quote this part of my post. If you try to take it to PM, I will block your PMs. This will be my last input in the argument. Attempting to persist in the argument will only result in my victory, so don't try.

That "IS YOUR PROBLEM!!!" line looks like persistence.