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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2009, 02:15:06 PM »

That's actually more dramatic a difference than I expected.
With you having such a powerful rig, the difference should be minimal, but if it makes that much of a difference on a high-end machine, it's going to improve things far more on a lower spec one such as billkamm's.
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2009, 08:03:58 PM »

I assumed since I had Vista and a 64-bit Processor my OS was 64-bit.  Am I not correct in assuming this?

Sadly not. There's 32-bit and 64-bit versions of operating systems.

Sadly.... I have the 32-bit version of Vista and my machine has a 64-bit processor.  Needless  to say this does not make me happy.
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2009, 08:19:59 PM »

Do you have 4 or more GBs of RAM? If you don't I don't really see the need of installing a 64-bit OS...
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2009, 08:31:47 PM »

as long as the apps are 64bit along with the OS, there should be a performance increase.

there definetly was one when I was checking out 64bit ubuntu.
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2009, 12:53:06 AM »

I assumed since I had Vista and a 64-bit Processor my OS was 64-bit.  Am I not correct in assuming this?

Sadly not. There's 32-bit and 64-bit versions of operating systems.

Sadly.... I have the 32-bit version of Vista and my machine has a 64-bit processor.  Needless  to say this does not make me happy.

Most people don't need a 64-bit OS.
There's two advantages to having one: If you have 4GB of RAM or more, you can use all of it (there's complicated reasons for exactly why this is, I'll just leave it at 32-bit can only "see" 4GB in total, and that has to include the RAM in your graphics card, so if you have 4GB RAM + 256MB graphics RAM, you only get 3.75GB main RAM visible in a 32-bit OS, you'd see all of it under 64-bit)
There's potential minor speed increases of up to about 15% for 64-bit applications due to being able to guarantee a 64-bit CPU has SSE and a number of other instruction extensions, as well as it having more registers on the CPU itself, so there's less waiting around for RAM to respond. These are as I say theoretical and depend entirely on the program being run taking advantage of them. SSE for example is only useful in math-heavy situations and completely useless when manipulating text.

But other than that there's not a huge amount of point. And that's why there's not been a mass move over to 64-bit. At least not in Windows. The open source world has generally gone there.

It's all a bit irrelevant to your problem though: I've run Audiosurf on 32-bit XP and Vista along with 64-bit Vista and Windows 7, so it runs fine on both Windows configurations.
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2009, 09:08:26 AM »

well you wouldn't see a difference because even know there is a 64 bit vista or xp most applications are still 32bit so those applications are getting no benfit of having more ram available or the advantage of the extra instruction sets.

and that the same way my xp is i got a 64bit proc but my xp is 32bit wont regonize all 4gb of ram and the other 512mb on the video card

but for alternate operating systems 64 bit is great such as the case with most linux distros such as on my SuSE install where everything is compiled for a 64bit proc which gives a nice performance increases but i believe that mostly due to better memory management in suse and a less bloated system than windows

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