+/- per track run

[mrbutter]

I'm not sure I would call audiosurf a 'racing' game but alas that seems to be what it is classified as. Regardless of whether or not you think of it as one, it WOULD make sense to add features from racing game, specifically the one where it tells you if you're ahead (+) or behind (-) of your previous run.

In normal racing games this would be done by time. There are specific parts in the track where the game would record the time (say, 1:23). There may be 4 or 5 of these per lap. Then on your next lap it will record the time again in the same spots and COMPARE them to the previous ones. So say you got 1:23 on the first lap for the first point, and then on that same point (but second lap) you have a 1:28 then you went -X% (don't feel like doing the math at the moment :p) but had you done 1:18 on the second lap, then you went +X%.

Of course with audiosurf you don't have laps. So instead, it would be nice if the game would compare the numbers on each separate run.

It would be nice to have at the very least 3 'comparisons' per track. Maybe have it like from 0% complete to 25% (and then it spits out the first number, which for audiosurf instead of time would probably be # of points) then from 26% to 50% it gives you your 2nd one, and then from 51%-75% it gives you the third one and you might as well at a fourth from 76%-100%.


Doesn't anyone else think this would be an awesome addition to the game? That way you can compare how good you're doing in certain parts compared to the best time you played.

[Laserrobotics]

this would not work because the game would have no idea if you are going to stealth the song or get a clean finish or one of the match bonuses until you actually get it.  even comparing the raw scores wouldn't help much because you could still get different bonuses.  Audiosurf is just too complicated for the likes of this.

[mrbutter]

But that doesn't have anything to do with it. It isn't to calculate your final score or anything like that. Just to compare PARTS of the track to the best time you did that PART of the track.

[Laserrobotics]

that doesn't make much sense
and i don't really care about how good i was at certain parts of the track in the first place.
if anybody cares about any part of their score, it's the part that comes after you dethrone someone.

[mrbutter]

It's especially useful for the start of a track.

For example, if my best run is a 120k run, and I want to beat it, it would be useful to be able to see if the first quarter of it I do better than I did in the first quarter of the 120k run, because that would mean I'm already doing better. I.E. I have hit more blocks or I've hit less greys or whatever the case may be I am IMPROVING upon what I had done in the previous run that I'm trying to beat.

It would be especially useful for when your best score already includes stealth and a bunch of other things so basically the only way to improve upon it is by making larger clusters/hitting more blocks that you may have missed on the other previous run.

Does it make sense now?

[LockeDown]

Would be helpful for mono but not as much for puzzle chars since the white blocks and such are placed differently and affect when you get your chunks of scores.

[Laserrobotics]

okay then, but if you don't like the song enough to play through it more than once why are you playing the song in the first place?

[mrbutter]

okay then, but if you don't like the song enough to play through it more than once why are you playing the song in the first place?

Are you responding to me? I don't understand where I expressed anything relating to how much you like a song, heh.

[Laserrobotics]

what you are talking about is a feature that is basically for the people who don't want to waste maybe 1-2 minutes on playing a song through a second time.

[Riffraff]

what you are talking about is a feature that is basically for the people who don't want to waste maybe 1-2 minutes on playing a song through a second time.

No. You must misunderstand him, this feature is for those who play the same song 20 times in a row, trying to beat a score they have already, and want to know if they're doing better than they were before.

VERY useful for 5-20 minute songs, not so much for 2-3.

[mrbutter]

what you are talking about is a feature that is basically for the people who don't want to waste maybe 1-2 minutes on playing a song through a second time.

No. You must misunderstand him, this feature is for those who play the same song 20 times in a row, trying to beat a score they have already, and want to know if they're doing better than they were before.

VERY useful for 5-20 minute songs, not so much for 2-3.

Basically.

[kEn_sct]

i do this mentally already, i remember my score at a certain lyric or break in the song and see if im up or down.  Dont see why u need the computer to tell u as u souled be able to work it out yourself

[Sensei Le Roof]

Not everyone has a reliable memory.

[mrbutter]

i do this mentally already, i remember my score at a certain lyric or break in the song and see if im up or down.  Dont see why u need the computer to tell u as u souled be able to work it out yourself

Because I would rather not think about it and instead just look at the game tell me...

I mean seriously dude, do you expect everyone to just memorize scores for every song?

[Roxor128]

Well, I for one usually can't tell if I've even played a given file before or not until Audiosurf tells me my personal best score for it at the start.

If a system telling you how much better or worse you're doing compared to previous runs was implemented, I think the points between which the comparison is made should be dynamically generated in a similar way to how the tracks are generated. Actually, using the song-graph and picking where the points where the slope changes the most would be a good way of implementing this.