Mono-only scoreboards?

[mantafirefly]

While I am of the opinion that anyone who thinks that puzzle mode is somehow easier than mono whould have their head checked or better yet, actually play a bit of elite ironmode, I am happy with the idea that the monos should at least be able to compare themselves to other monos.

So my suggestion, rather than another scoreboard, is to add a "filter" option which means the scoreboard only displays characters of your choosing or the one that you've just played. This would also solve some of the other petty pointman-pusher elite arguments that exist.

[Melodia]

So my suggestion, rather than another scoreboard, is to add a "filter" option which means the scoreboard only displays characters of your choosing or the one that you've just played. This would also solve some of the other petty pointman-pusher elite arguments that exist.

Your idea, and that of many many others in the past 13 months.

[nhex]

I think the problems that might arrive from the current implentation changing are:

1) There's only 11 scores on the board per difficulty, so filtering isn't really worth the effort of coding unless more scores are stored... thus...
2) Storing more scores is the bigger problem, since it's already doing up to three scores per player online on the servers, regardless if they place on any scoreboard. If you want to store scores for every character, that's multiplying the overhead significantly (instead of up to 3 scores, that's up to 14 per player per song)

I'm guessing the scores aren't stored locally on our own computer to deter cheating and avoid the problems of syncing different computers' scores, which is sensible. If I'm totally off in my assumptions, someone let me know...

[Mincus]

No, you're right.
Adding a filtering mechanism would require more scores to be downloaded to be worthwhile.
It would be possible to locally store scores already downloaded though and check using a small, simple hash function...

So, initially the entire score, 'coaster view and bonus list (plus anything else you can see that I've forgotten) is downloaded for, say, the top 50 for that song. This would include the hash.
Next time you ride that song you just download 50 hashes.
You check the hashs locally, if you find any that you don't have the local score for, you go download that.

You still have a fair amount of traffic, but it would cut down on some, provided a small hash was used (chuck in the actual song name as part of the hash and it's far less likely to have collisions).

But, I'm just speculating, it's unlikely such a mechanism would be implemented.

Other advantages would be that you'd have a local copy of the score table from the last time you were online, so could have a goal, even if you couldn't submit your score. Also there's no new ways of cheating since the scores are checked after each song, except to have a local screenshot of you at the top perhaps (which is easily faked with minor photoshop skills anyway).

[Ko-Tao]

For those still unaware, this feature has been partially implimented in the most recent update. Partially meaning, while its possible to view the top 10 mono scores in each difficulty setting for any given song, the mono/puzzle boards arent actually fully seperate, so dethrones are still based on the full (all ships) global board.

The mono only boards can be viewed by clicking on one of the mono ship symbols displayed below the scoreboards, from within the online stats site. This feature does not (currently) extend to the ingame scoreboards. Click a puzzle ship symbol to return to the regular mixed boards.

[nhex]

Whoa! I had no idea about this, pretty cool. I don't remember this being mentioned anywhere in the update news.

[blue_h3x]

Whoa! I had no idea about this, pretty cool. I don't remember this being mentioned anywhere in the update news.

it was decided to keep it a hidden feature, a would be Easter egg

[Saeda88]

So much for that, next step would be to implement Mono-Thrones ^^ I didn't even know how many songs I did best on mono, very popular ones sometimes...

[Davisx3m]

I agree!

[Independent Scholar Static]

I just want to go on record saying that I am entirely against separating character scoreboards. Mono is balanced fine imo, he has point gain for missing greys and has the ability to get the decent sized stealth bonus as well. I hold a few global thrones on well played songs as mono, and while I agree it DOES come out underneath eraser and pusher... Well Eraser and pusher are both designed to be high scorers. It even says so sometimes in loading screens to use them as challenges.

Mono is easy, he is a casual fun ride, why reward people highly for playing that way? They already have a decent enough chance to get a high score, so i feel like other more difficult characters should be rewarded with more point potential. I mean come on, let's say you just made it passed a 7 minute all dwnhill twisting turning song with eraser or pusher. How pissed would you be if you got to the scoreboard and saw that someone dodged around with a mono and scored more than you?

[blue_h3x]

I just want to go on record saying that I am entirely against separating character scoreboards. Mono is balanced fine imo, he has point gain for missing greys and has the ability to get the decent sized stealth bonus as well. I hold a few global thrones on well played songs as mono, and while I agree it DOES come out underneath eraser and pusher... Well Eraser and pusher are both designed to be high scorers. It even says so sometimes in loading screens to use them as challenges.

Mono is easy, he is a casual fun ride, why reward people highly for playing that way? They already have a decent enough chance to get a high score, so i feel like other more difficult characters should be rewarded with more point potential. I mean come on, let's say you just made it passed a 7 minute all dwnhill twisting turning song with eraser or pusher. How pissed would you be if you got to the scoreboard and saw that someone dodged around with a mono and scored more than you?

exactly

[SurfinOnBeatzzz]

How pissed would you be if you got to the scoreboard and saw that someone dodged around with a mono and scored more than you?

It's the other way around. But that's from a point of view of a mono-player.

[blue_h3x]

How pissed would you be if you got to the scoreboard and saw that someone dodged around with a mono and scored more than you?

It's the other way around. But that's from a point of view of a mono-player.

I used to think that, before I became a puzzle player

[Independent Scholar Static]

It's the other way around. But that's from a point of view of a mono-player.

It shouldn't be though when you think about it in all fairness. You are playing as an easy character, it is only right for people who play a harder one, to be rewarded more for it. Erasers, Pushers, Vegases, these characters depending on the overtones and beat of the song, can literally be around 4-6 times HARDER to ride with on songs that go uphill. On ironmode, that means that up OR down, they can be kicked from a song in mere seconds due to an overfill. Monos.. Well I've personally sat around TRYING to collect grays to overfill on some of the songs I've played, and failed to do so.

tl;dr - People who player harder characters deserve more points then people who don't. It simply isn't fair to be outbeat by a mono when you just barely scrape by a hard song as something like Pusher Elite, or Eraser.

[blue_h3x]

tl;dr - People who player harder characters deserve more points then people who don't. It simply isn't fair to be outbeat by a mono when you just barely scrape by a hard song as something like Pusher Elite, or Eraser.

+1